of us against them. against big cities that increasingly dominate state legislatures, passing laws that some say ignore rural needs. >> the state of california passes regulations about not cutting trees or things of that sort, is there a direct impact in your community? >> oh, of course there is. our local economy is in rural california are basically dependent on ranching, farming, timber, hunting, fishing, and every time we make bureaucratic decisions that impact that, we destroy the economies of the north of the state. >> reporter: this isn't their first try. people in northern california and southern oregon tried breaking away once before in 1941, even setting up roadblocks on the borders of a state of jefferson, it fizzled out with the beginning of world war ii. >> and it turns out that breaking away from one state to form a new one is as old as the united states. beginning in 1776, when the colony of delaware broke from pennsylvania, maine was once part of massachusetts, west virginia and kentucky were once part of virginia, and tennessee was a break away from north carolina.